tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10856048.post5637247839515532428..comments2024-03-12T12:23:10.033-04:00Comments on Secular Perspectives: Stressed Buffet Offered by the Hurricane, News QuakeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10856048.post-40601193556530686472011-08-28T18:38:38.634-04:002011-08-28T18:38:38.634-04:00There were also spontaneous public celebrations in...There were also spontaneous public celebrations in Nablus, Ramallah, and Lebanon, according to eyewitness journalists from AP and Reuters, some of whom are themselves Palestinians. This is multiple eye-witnessed, well documented, beyond any reasonable question, a historical fact. In my view it is nuts, I mean really crazy, to raise questions about this as if there is any justification to have any doubts. Here is a word for word copy of an AP story:<br /><br />Bin-Laden Poster Seen at Gaza Rally<br /><br />The Associated Press<br /> Friday, Sept. 14, 2001; 6:09 p.m. EDT<br /><br />JERUSALEM –– About 1,500 Palestinians, many supporters of the Islamic militant group Hamas, marched in a Gaza Strip refugee camp on Friday, burning Israeli flags and carrying a large poster of Osama bin Laden, who has been named as a key suspect in this week's terror attacks in the United States.<br /><br />After the rally, plainclothes Palestinian policemen questioned several journalists, including staffers of foreign news agencies, and confiscated videotape and film as well as camera equipment. An Associated Press Television News video was among the materials taken, and an AP photographer was warned by officials not to publish pictures of the bin-Laden poster.<br /><br />AP protested and demanded return of the video and other material.<br /><br />The journalists were told police would review the material before deciding whether to release it.<br /><br />Officials of Yasser Arafat's self-rule government refused to comment on the record and did not respond immediately to AP's protest.<br /><br />The Palestinian police said in a statement that the rally in the Nusseirat refugee camp took place without a permit. "The Palestinian police confiscated media material which documented illegal acts," the statement said.<br /><br />The Palestinian Authority has sought to prevent coverage of demonstrations in support of those who carried out the attacks on the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington.<br /><br />Earlier this week, Palestinian police stopped camera teams and photographers from covering a rally in the West Bank town of Nablus in which several thousand Palestinians celebrated the attacks in the United States. Palestinian officials said the demonstration did not represent widespread Palestinian opinion.<br /><br />Friday's march in the Nusseirat refugee camp in the Gaza Strip was led by supporters of Hamas, a militant group that has claimed responsibility for suicide attacks against Israel. Demonstrators burned several Israeli flags and effigies of Israeli politicians, including Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.<br /><br />A large Osama bin Laden painting was carried by two men in the crowd. Bin Laden, an exiled Saudi millionaire, has been named by U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell as a key suspect in Tuesday's terror attacks.Explicit Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05501109533475045969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10856048.post-20797479453515769982011-08-28T17:00:29.311-04:002011-08-28T17:00:29.311-04:00Since archiving is inadequate and the context of s...Since archiving is inadequate and the context of supposed films not well documented we are left with impressions formed from a series of counter claims by witnesses. Wikipedia has one:<br /><br />"Annette Krüger Spitta of the ARD's (German public broadcasting) TV magazine Panorama states that footage not aired shows that the street surrounding the celebration in Jerusalem is quiet. Furthermore, she states that a man in a white T-shirt incited the children and gathered people together for the shot. The Panorama report, dated September 20, 2001, quotes Communications Professor Martin Löffelholz explaining that in the images one sees jubilant Palestinian children and several adults but there is no indication that their pleasure is related to the attack. The woman seen cheering (Nawal Abdel Fatah) stated afterwards that she was offered cake if she celebrated on camera, and was frightened when she saw the pictures on television afterward."Gary Berg-Crosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00104267265989624672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10856048.post-58670675634701783152011-08-28T13:56:53.991-04:002011-08-28T13:56:53.991-04:00"Which version is the truth? Honestly I don’t..."Which version is the truth? Honestly I don’t know."<br /><br />Snopes comments on this false claim that the video did not depict some Palestinians celebrating the Sept. 11 attacks http://www.snopes.com/rumors/cnn.asp<br /><br />The assertion that Israeli television news broadcast video of Palestinians celebrating a 1993 peace accord immediately following the Sept. 11 attacks on the Twin towers in Manhattan and the Pentagon in Virginia and misrepresented that 1993 video as depicting Palestinians celebrating the attacks is almost certainly false. But even if, in some single instance, some television station somewhere pulled an eight year old video and falsely displayed it as current news, the fact remains that there is video of Palestinians celebrating the attack,. Furthermore, that video is not Israeli unless you consider Reuters to be "Israeli". Here is a statement from Reuters about their video: http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/20/reuters.statement/index.htmlExplicit Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05501109533475045969noreply@blogger.com